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Vin King State War Academy Caldari State 23	Posted - 2013.02.14 20:35:00 - [1] - Quote Sariah Kion wrote: There are FAR more tears and calls for changes to the game now coming from gankers than miners. Far more. Hell, the movement and this very thread wants to change the game. Sariah Kion wrote: Yes, they are asking CCP to change. Have you not read this very thread or the platform of John 315? Come on. You're not that dense. Actually, the New Order hasn't done much in the way of asking CCP to change anything. The New Order has been making the change all on it's own. Miners begged CCP to stop the Order, CCP said deal with it. We're having fun making other people PLAY the game. If you think for one second that it's inexcusable for us to engage AFK ice miners using the mechanics that they have begged for over the years, I'm not sure what to tell you. I don't see why everyone rushes to defend characters that the players can't even be assed enough to play but one click an hour, but the OP has given me hope in that some people can learn to read past the satire to see what's going on. As a new player, I can already see how easy it would be to fall into the silk prison of HighSec and never want to leave. Get horrified by the prospect of having to actually play the game, or be made aware that it's not a single player game. Instead, people want to AFK mine ice with no tank, and cry when someone either bumps them out of mining range or kerplodes their mack. "Oh noes, an Invincible Stabber bumped me 45 minutes ago and I just now noticed, CCP PLZ HALPS MY ISKS" 315 4 CSM 8
Vin King State War Academy Caldari State 23	Posted - 2013.02.14 21:16:00 - [2] - Quote Sariah Kion wrote: Really? You link to the James 315 CSM platform then try and say that you are not about "changing the game mechanics" Good stuff.... You realize, I'm hoping, that there is a difference between James' CSM platform and the operations of the New Order. The Order is doing fantastic without changes. James' CSM platform is the same as any other CSM platform, a political manifesto of the direction he'd like to see the game go. I support his platform separately of my interactions with the New Order. 315 4 CSM 8
Vin King State War Academy Caldari State 25	Posted - 2013.02.14 22:00:00 - [3] - Quote Miss Spent Youth wrote: or you could, ya know, go outside in the yard and pull the legs off spiders. We do. It just so happens that our yard is HighSec, and the spiders that inhabit it are called "miners." 315 4 CSM 8
Vin King State War Academy Caldari State 34	Posted - 2013.02.15 16:36:00 - [4] - Quote Dear friends, this is a glorious occasion. Look at how we have all been brought together by the peace and love offered by the Code. You each have shown that you care about the Code enough to come here and debate your understanding of various nuances of the Code, even if you are not yet part of the New Order. This is stupendous, and should be celebrated! Even those of you who argue that you still mistakenly think you should be left to steal ice from New Order space while you mine unpermitted while watching movies or taking naps have been brought together by the understanding and tranquility the New Order represents. My spirits are once again uplifted by seeing familiar faces, including those who once again make coy and playful statements that they've never heard of the New Order, or that the New Order has no effect on them. We readily accept your flirting, seeing as though many of you are once again posting in a thread about the New Order. If, truly, the New Order has not inspired you as it has done so with so many others, you would not be at this fine gathering today! I am also pleased to see so many people having fun with the comedic notion that everyone is an alt of James 315, and that I, as one of these apparently infinite alts, single handedly comprise all of Goonswarm. It would be a grand gag, indeed, for one person to command such a great army of clones and personalities unbeknownst to the rest of the population. This joke is great, for by making it, you acknowledge the genius and leadership of James 315 to extents no mortal could actually attain. The Savior of HighSec is indeed a great man. Everyone in this thread is surely an alt of the Supreme Protector. We of the Order are pleased that our efforts to bring the community together are being so well accepted. The Agents and Knights of the Order spend much time ensuring that everyone, like the OP, can have the proper time to reflect upon the Code, and what it means to them. The Code works in mysterious ways at times, and it is up to each of us to determine how it affects our daily lives. It is naught but the leadership, wisdom, and grace of the illustrious James that has brought us together today. 315 4 CSM 8
Vin King State War Academy Caldari State 34	Posted - 2013.02.15 16:46:00 - [5] - Quote Laura Valu wrote: I want to clarify that I have no problem with what he is doing per se; I simply find some of the rhetoric disingenuous. If someone wants to get a bunch of friends together and start a protection racket, thatGÇÖs fine. Eve is a sandbox game, I while thatGÇÖs not really my cup of tea, I sort of like that thatGÇÖs possible. Just donGÇÖt expect the rest of us to agree when they trumpet about how they are somehow protecting all that is right and good. The Hulkageddon people are also annoying, but at least they are completely honest about their motivations. Yet this post seemingly talks about the enforcement actions, not the Code itself: Laura Valu wrote: So I should stop having BADWRONG fun. Got it. Everything should be PVP all the time forever and anything that takes away from that is KILLING EVE OMG. The weirdest part is, you guys don't seem to really want PVP. Not really. If you wanted actual fights, you would be out in null, or W-Space. What you want is to shoot at noobs in mining barges, using ships specifically designed to be expendable, and then chest beat about how you showed those wimpy carebears. 315 4 CSM 8
Vin King State War Academy Caldari State 34	Posted - 2013.02.15 16:54:00 - [6] - Quote Tesal wrote: Are you being serious? Friend Tesal, can you deny that we would not be having this exchange without the glory of the New Order lighting the way for us? 315 4 CSM 8
Vin King State War Academy Caldari State 36	Posted - 2013.02.15 18:00:00 - [7] - Quote Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: Now what? That's easy. Stop whining and demanding that the ship you're not even playing is still there when you bother to come back to the game. FTFY 315 4 CSM 8
Vin King State War Academy Caldari State 36	Posted - 2013.02.15 18:12:00 - [8] - Quote Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: Vin King wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: Now what? That's easy. Stop whining and demanding that the ship you're not even playing is still there when you bother to come back to the game. Hurr durr I like putting words in other players' mouths. FTFY I see you accurately quoted yourself in that. Thanks! 315 4 CSM 8
Vin King State War Academy Caldari State 37	Posted - 2013.02.15 19:51:00 - [9] - Quote Agent Trask wrote: Crumplecorn wrote: TheGunslinger42 wrote: So I'm revising my statements, EVE is 100% PVP. Unless you can present me with a single, truly PVE activity I fully intended to respond to this with some obscure silly activity that is technically a PvE only activity, but I actually can't think of one. Ship spinning at the dock. See how big you can make the number at the bottom. Only if you're spinning a noobship, though. 315 4 CSM 8
Vin King State War Academy Caldari State 42	Posted - 2013.02.16 02:48:00 - [10] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Corey Fumimasa wrote: Benny Ohu wrote: Vin King wrote: Only if you're spinning a noobship, though. Actually, claiming your first nubship requires undocking at least once. This is unacceptable for a PvE-only character and so you must confine yourself to pod spinning. This is entirely inadequate, Eve pilots deserve better PvE encounters than just pod spinning. I would like to propose an auto pod spin feature! one that is clearly labeled and easily understood. Perhaps the space bar. With red octagons throughout the hanger labeled "STOP" in languages and fonts clearly understandable by all player skill levels. AFK spinning...? Let it hereby be known by all that AFK pod spinning has been determined to be the only PVE activity in the game. 315 4 CSM 8

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